Tema: Re: GMO genocidas
Autorius: RaR
Data: 2011-03-25 12:04:26
Kur tu įžvelgi tą "argumentum at hominem"? Pareikalavau tik pagrįsti 
savo frazę.



2011.03.25 11:52, sonca rašė:
> O Tu sugebi diskututi be "argumentum at hominem"?
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> "RaR" <RaR@lt.lt> wrote in message news:imhoad$roc$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
> Parodyk, kuris teiginys neteisingas, ir pateiksiu daug rimtesnių
> šaltinių, jei sugebėsi juos skaityti. O šiaip jau wikipedia yra daug
> rimtesnis šaltinis praktiškai už bet kurį Lietuvos žiniasklaidos
> šaltinį. Nekalbant jau apie internetines blevyzgas perspausdinantį
> sarmatas.lt
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> 2011.03.25 11:42, sonca rašė:
>> O wikipedia yra labai rimtas ir patikimas šaltinis.
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>> "RaR" <RaR@lt.lt> wrote in message
>> news:imhm96$o87$2@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>> p.s.
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>> Problema dėl sėklų nebuvimo iš viso neegzistuoja, nes tokia GM
>> technologija sukurta, ją nupirko Monsanto, bet ji dar nekomercializuota.
>> Taigi, tame straipsnelyje parašytas MELAS. tai vėl ta pati wikipedia,
>> ištrauka iš straipsnelio apie GMO:
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>> "An often cited controversy is a "Technology Protection" technology
>> dubbed 'Terminator'.[60] This uncommercialized technology would allow
>> the production of first generation crops that would not generate seeds
>> in the second generation because the plants yield sterile seeds. The
>> patent for this so-called "terminator" gene technology is owned by Delta
>> and Pine Land Company and the United States Department of Agriculture.
>> Delta and Pine Land was bought by Monsanto Company in August 2006.
>> Similarly, the hypothetical trait-specific Genetic Use Restriction
>> Technology, also known as 'Traitor' or 'T-GURT', requires application of
>> a chemical to genetically modified crops to reactivate engineered
>> traits.[60][61] This technology is intended both to limit the spread of
>> genetically engineered plants, and to require farmers to pay yearly to
>> reactivate the genetically engineered traits of their crops. Genetic Use
>> Restriction Technology is under development by companies including
>> Monsanto and AstraZeneca.
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>> In addition to the commercial protection of proprietary technology in
>> self-pollinating crops such as soybean (a generally contentious issue),
>> another purpose of the terminator gene is to prevent the escape of
>> genetically modified traits from cross-pollinating crops into wild-type
>> species by sterilizing any resultant hybrids. Some environmentalist
>> groups, while considering outcrossing of GM plants dangerous, felt the
>> technology would prevent re-use of seed by farmers growing such
>> terminator varieties in the developing world and was ostensibly a means
>> to exercise patent claims.[citation needed] However other environmental
>> groups welcomed the terminator gene as a means of preventing GM crops
>> from mixing with natural crops.[citation needed]
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>> Hybrid seeds were commonly used in the developed countries long before
>> the introduction of GM crops. Hybrid seeds cannot be saved, so
>> purchasing new seed every year is already a standard agricultural
>> practice.
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>> There are technologies evolving which contain the transgene by
>> biological means and still can provide fertile seeds using fertility
>> restorer functions. Such methods are being developed by several EU
>> research programs, among them Transcontainer and Co-Extra."
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>> Ir, kaip jau minėjau, jau seniai pilna yra tradicinių hibridinių
>> veislių, kurios neduoda sėklų.
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>> 2011.03.25 10:47, fkt rašė:
>>>
>>> "RaR"<RaR@lt.lt> wrote in message
>>> news:imhkbi$ksu$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>
>>>> na visų pirma derliui sumažėjus jo nelieka pelnui, bet kažkiek sėklom
>>>> lieka.
>>>> tu taip jau labai supranti arba juoda arba balta.
>>>> arba derlius su dideliu pelnu, arba išvis nulis.
>>>
>>> Jeigu derliaus nulis - tai ir iš nesterilių veislių sėklos nulis. Jei ne
>>> nulis - tai iš nesterilių veislių derliaus lieka bent sėklai, o iš
>>> sterilių - už parduotą produkciją gali gauti pinigų bent sėklai pirkti.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> nu tai gal kvotos kokios nors, kad tiek kiek lieka sėklai nieks
>>> nesupirkinėja.
>>> pas mus gi panašiai kad po šimtą kg runkelių nepriduosi.
>>>
>>>
>>> O šiaip jau niekur neradau, kad BT medvilnė yra sterili. Beje, paskaityk
>>> rimtesnių šaltinių su faktais ir nuorodomis kaip sėkmingai Indijoje
>>> įdiegiama BT medvilnė. "Bt-Cotton in India: Remarkable Adoption and
>>> Benefits"
>>> http://www.fbae.org/2009/FBAE/website/our-position-bt-cotton.html.
>>>
>>>
>>> hm, tada belieka mistika dėl smegenų poveikio dėl polinkio į
>>> nusinuodyjimą :)
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