Tema: Re: GMO genocidas
Autorius: sonca
Data: 2011-03-25 11:52:26
O Tu sugebi diskututi be "argumentum at hominem"?

"RaR" <RaR@lt.lt> wrote in message news:imhoad$roc$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
Parodyk, kuris teiginys neteisingas, ir pateiksiu daug rimtesnių
šaltinių, jei sugebėsi juos skaityti. O šiaip jau wikipedia yra daug
rimtesnis šaltinis praktiškai už bet kurį Lietuvos žiniasklaidos
šaltinį. Nekalbant jau apie internetines blevyzgas perspausdinantį
sarmatas.lt





2011.03.25 11:42, sonca rašė:
> O wikipedia yra labai rimtas ir patikimas šaltinis.
>
> "RaR" <RaR@lt.lt> wrote in message 
> news:imhm96$o87$2@trimpas.omnitel.net...
> p.s.
>
> Problema dėl sėklų nebuvimo iš viso neegzistuoja, nes tokia GM
> technologija sukurta, ją nupirko Monsanto, bet ji dar nekomercializuota.
> Taigi, tame straipsnelyje parašytas MELAS. tai vėl ta pati wikipedia,
> ištrauka iš straipsnelio apie GMO:
>
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> "An often cited controversy is a "Technology Protection" technology
> dubbed 'Terminator'.[60] This uncommercialized technology would allow
> the production of first generation crops that would not generate seeds
> in the second generation because the plants yield sterile seeds. The
> patent for this so-called "terminator" gene technology is owned by Delta
> and Pine Land Company and the United States Department of Agriculture.
> Delta and Pine Land was bought by Monsanto Company in August 2006.
> Similarly, the hypothetical trait-specific Genetic Use Restriction
> Technology, also known as 'Traitor' or 'T-GURT', requires application of
> a chemical to genetically modified crops to reactivate engineered
> traits.[60][61] This technology is intended both to limit the spread of
> genetically engineered plants, and to require farmers to pay yearly to
> reactivate the genetically engineered traits of their crops. Genetic Use
> Restriction Technology is under development by companies including
> Monsanto and AstraZeneca.
>
> In addition to the commercial protection of proprietary technology in
> self-pollinating crops such as soybean (a generally contentious issue),
> another purpose of the terminator gene is to prevent the escape of
> genetically modified traits from cross-pollinating crops into wild-type
> species by sterilizing any resultant hybrids. Some environmentalist
> groups, while considering outcrossing of GM plants dangerous, felt the
> technology would prevent re-use of seed by farmers growing such
> terminator varieties in the developing world and was ostensibly a means
> to exercise patent claims.[citation needed] However other environmental
> groups welcomed the terminator gene as a means of preventing GM crops
> from mixing with natural crops.[citation needed]
>
> Hybrid seeds were commonly used in the developed countries long before
> the introduction of GM crops. Hybrid seeds cannot be saved, so
> purchasing new seed every year is already a standard agricultural 
> practice.
>
> There are technologies evolving which contain the transgene by
> biological means and still can provide fertile seeds using fertility
> restorer functions. Such methods are being developed by several EU
> research programs, among them Transcontainer and Co-Extra."
>
>
> Ir, kaip jau minėjau, jau seniai pilna yra tradicinių hibridinių
> veislių, kurios neduoda sėklų.
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> 2011.03.25 10:47, fkt rašė:
>>
>> "RaR"<RaR@lt.lt> wrote in message
>> news:imhkbi$ksu$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>
>>> na visų pirma derliui sumažėjus jo nelieka pelnui, bet kažkiek sėklom
>>> lieka.
>>> tu taip jau labai supranti arba juoda arba balta.
>>> arba derlius su dideliu pelnu, arba išvis nulis.
>>
>> Jeigu derliaus nulis - tai ir iš nesterilių veislių sėklos nulis. Jei ne
>> nulis - tai iš nesterilių veislių derliaus lieka bent sėklai, o iš
>> sterilių - už parduotą produkciją gali gauti pinigų bent sėklai pirkti.
>>
>>
>>
>> nu tai gal kvotos kokios nors, kad tiek kiek lieka sėklai nieks
>> nesupirkinėja.
>> pas mus gi panašiai kad po šimtą kg runkelių nepriduosi.
>>
>>
>> O šiaip jau niekur neradau, kad BT medvilnė yra sterili. Beje, paskaityk
>> rimtesnių šaltinių su faktais ir nuorodomis kaip sėkmingai Indijoje
>> įdiegiama BT medvilnė. "Bt-Cotton in India: Remarkable Adoption and
>> Benefits"
>> http://www.fbae.org/2009/FBAE/website/our-position-bt-cotton.html.
>>
>>
>> hm, tada belieka mistika dėl smegenų poveikio dėl polinkio į
>> nusinuodyjimą :)
>

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