Tema: Re: Del DAC
Autorius: Tomas
Data: 2013-11-14 08:23:46
O pas mane toks jausmas, kad lieka ir prie didesniu garso lygiu...

"Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:l61pui$qsn$2@trimpas.omnitel.net...
> p.s. jei loudness normaliai realizuotas, prie didesnių garso lygių jo turi 
> šiaip ar taip nelikt, nepriklausomai nuo mIKtuko padėties.
>
> On 2013.11.13 20:24, shimtas kinieciu wrote:
>> ps padorios koloneles grazei groja ir negarsei. ar tik nebus ten pas jy
>> tas denonas banalei per silpnas joms ;)
>>
>>
>> "shimtas kinieciu"  wrote in message
>> news:l60g0t$apq$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>
>> o vat kaiptik tais atveajeis tas loud miktukas labeusei ir netinkamas nes
>> bosai aina keurai viska ;)
>>
>>
>> "Dainiushas"  wrote in message news:l60f5t$a6j$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>
>> nevisada imanoma.
>>
>> On 2013.11.13 19:16, shimtas kinieciu wrote:
>>> tam reik klausit nepertilei ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dainiushas"  wrote in message news:l606ar$587$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>
>>> ne apgavystė. briedas ta angelska rašliava. su sąlyga, kad ausies
>>> dažninė charakteristika yra kreiva ir su tą salyga, prie mažų garso
>>> lygių, žemus ir aukštus girdi blogiau nei vidurius. Tam kompensuot ir
>>> skirtas loudness.
>>>
>>> On 2013.11.13 17:28, shimtas kinieciu wrote:
>>>> nes apgaviste tas loudness ;)
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/amps-pre-pros-receivers/5646-loudness-button.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a quick question for you. I recently upgraded my receiver from a
>>>> Pioneer VSX-412k to a Denon AVR-2105 (885). What a difference I have a
>>>> pair of Klipsch SF-2's in the front and I noticed that when I upgraded 
>>>> I
>>>> lost quite a bit of bass. I did not move the speakers at all, but on 
>>>> the
>>>> Pioneer I had a Loudness/Midnight button which made the music more full
>>>> in general and definately more bass. In fact in "stereo" mode and in
>>>> "loudness" the SF-2's created such nice bass that I would turn the sub
>>>> off. This isn't the case with the Denon. I noticed that most mid-higher
>>>> end models do not have this loudness feature. Why is that? Don't get me
>>>> wrong, the Denon sounds better all around. I am just curious why that
>>>> feature is not widely used on the more expensive models.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, this is a very popular way to "improve" bass. Commonly, the
>>>> loudness button is used when listening musc at low levels, why? because
>>>> it adds artificially like 10db of more bass at certain frequencies,
>>>> which can stress your amp at high volumes. The only thing that the
>>>> loudness button does is to "color" the sound and this isn't a desirable
>>>> thing because it distorts the main source. The sound isn't going to be
>>>> "pure" if you want to look it this way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "shimtas kinieciu"  wrote in message
>>>> news:l605lm$4m8$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>
>>>> o jeigu vietoj loudness tiesiok garseu pasileist? ;)
>>>>
>>>> "Tomas"  wrote in message news:l5vqdn$ote$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>
>>>> OJ tiksliai, pamirsau dar pasakyti kad tame mano Denon PMA700AE 
>>>> ijungtas
>>>> turi buti "loudness" mygtukas, be jo visisika pieva, tikrai garsas 
>>>> tampa
>>>> bukas bukas, ne del to kad sumazeja zemu ar aukstu dazniu, o tiesiog
>>>> pati
>>>> scena susitraukia ant tiek kad nu tikrai nemalonu klausyt ir ijungt ji
>>>> reikia vel atgal.. Tembru abu reguliatoriai ant 0 ir ju didint tikrai
>>>> nesinori... bet va tas loudness tai keistas kazkoks, net esant 
>>>> didesniam
>>>> garsui zenkliai itakoja garsa, nors kaip suprantu jis teoriskai prie
>>>> didesnio garso nebeturetu turet reiksmes? Nu zodziu visai as buvau
>>>> uzmirses
>>>> apie sita mygtuka... :) Nu nepykit :)
>>>>
>>>> "CodeC" <c@c.co> wrote in message
>>>> news:l5vpr8$oam$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>> On 11/13/2013 02:00 PM, Icetom wrote:
>>>>>>> ir panasu kad reikia stiprintuvo, bet negi DAC'as pamaisys? ir
>>>>>>> integruotos kortos....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jei paaiškėtų, kad kaltas stiprintuvas ir jis taip "nudusina"
>>>>>> ateinantį
>>>>>> signalą, kad nebelieka skirtumo koks šaltinis- stalinis, nešiojamas 
>>>>>> ar
>>>>>> išorinis SAK, kokia prasmė leisti pinigus išoriniam SAK'ui?
>>>>>
>>>>> tavo zodziuose prasme yra tik tuo atveju, jeigu jo stiprintuve
>>>>> signalas eina per skaitmenini garso reguliatoriu ir
>>>>> filtra/ekvalaizeri, kuriu neina fiziskai atjungti. tada taip, glai
>>>>> buti kaltas 'stiprintuvas', tiksliau ne pats galios stiprintuvas, o
>>>>> tie shudo verti blokai pries ji.
>>>>> turejau toki SONY gaidy, tai dieve dieve, nederinta smadielka su
>>>>> neatrinktais tranzais po 5 Lt/vnt grojo ZYMIAI geriau.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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