nes apgaviste tas loudness ;) http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/amps-pre-pros-receivers/5646-loudness-button.html I have a quick question for you. I recently upgraded my receiver from a Pioneer VSX-412k to a Denon AVR-2105 (885). What a difference I have a pair of Klipsch SF-2's in the front and I noticed that when I upgraded I lost quite a bit of bass. I did not move the speakers at all, but on the Pioneer I had a Loudness/Midnight button which made the music more full in general and definately more bass. In fact in "stereo" mode and in "loudness" the SF-2's created such nice bass that I would turn the sub off. This isn't the case with the Denon. I noticed that most mid-higher end models do not have this loudness feature. Why is that? Don't get me wrong, the Denon sounds better all around. I am just curious why that feature is not widely used on the more expensive models. Yes, this is a very popular way to "improve" bass. Commonly, the loudness button is used when listening musc at low levels, why? because it adds artificially like 10db of more bass at certain frequencies, which can stress your amp at high volumes. The only thing that the loudness button does is to "color" the sound and this isn't a desirable thing because it distorts the main source. The sound isn't going to be "pure" if you want to look it this way. "shimtas kinieciu" wrote in message news:l605lm$4m8$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... o jeigu vietoj loudness tiesiok garseu pasileist? ;) "Tomas" wrote in message news:l5vqdn$ote$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... OJ tiksliai, pamirsau dar pasakyti kad tame mano Denon PMA700AE ijungtas turi buti "loudness" mygtukas, be jo visisika pieva, tikrai garsas tampa bukas bukas, ne del to kad sumazeja zemu ar aukstu dazniu, o tiesiog pati scena susitraukia ant tiek kad nu tikrai nemalonu klausyt ir ijungt ji reikia vel atgal.. Tembru abu reguliatoriai ant 0 ir ju didint tikrai nesinori... bet va tas loudness tai keistas kazkoks, net esant didesniam garsui zenkliai itakoja garsa, nors kaip suprantu jis teoriskai prie didesnio garso nebeturetu turet reiksmes? Nu zodziu visai as buvau uzmirses apie sita mygtuka... :) Nu nepykit :) "CodeC" <c@c.co> wrote in message news:l5vpr8$oam$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > On 11/13/2013 02:00 PM, Icetom wrote: >>> ir panasu kad reikia stiprintuvo, bet negi DAC'as pamaisys? ir >>> integruotos kortos.... >> >> Jei paaiškėtų, kad kaltas stiprintuvas ir jis taip "nudusina" ateinantį >> signalą, kad nebelieka skirtumo koks šaltinis- stalinis, nešiojamas ar >> išorinis SAK, kokia prasmė leisti pinigus išoriniam SAK'ui? > > tavo zodziuose prasme yra tik tuo atveju, jeigu jo stiprintuve signalas > eina per skaitmenini garso reguliatoriu ir filtra/ekvalaizeri, kuriu neina > fiziskai atjungti. tada taip, glai buti kaltas 'stiprintuvas', tiksliau ne > pats galios stiprintuvas, o tie shudo verti blokai pries ji. > turejau toki SONY gaidy, tai dieve dieve, nederinta smadielka su > neatrinktais tranzais po 5 Lt/vnt grojo ZYMIAI geriau. >