Tema: Re: Del DAC
Autorius: Dainiushas
Data: 2013-11-14 08:17:54
p.s. jei loudness normaliai realizuotas, prie didesnių garso lygių jo 
turi šiaip ar taip nelikt, nepriklausomai nuo mIKtuko padėties.

On 2013.11.13 20:24, shimtas kinieciu wrote:
> ps padorios koloneles grazei groja ir negarsei. ar tik nebus ten pas jy
> tas denonas banalei per silpnas joms ;)
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> "shimtas kinieciu"  wrote in message
> news:l60g0t$apq$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
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> o vat kaiptik tais atveajeis tas loud miktukas labeusei ir netinkamas nes
> bosai aina keurai viska ;)
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> "Dainiushas"  wrote in message news:l60f5t$a6j$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
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> nevisada imanoma.
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> On 2013.11.13 19:16, shimtas kinieciu wrote:
>> tam reik klausit nepertilei ;)
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>> "Dainiushas"  wrote in message news:l606ar$587$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
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>> ne apgavystė. briedas ta angelska rašliava. su sąlyga, kad ausies
>> dažninė charakteristika yra kreiva ir su tą salyga, prie mažų garso
>> lygių, žemus ir aukštus girdi blogiau nei vidurius. Tam kompensuot ir
>> skirtas loudness.
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>> On 2013.11.13 17:28, shimtas kinieciu wrote:
>>> nes apgaviste tas loudness ;)
>>>
>>> http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/amps-pre-pros-receivers/5646-loudness-button.html
>>>
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>>>
>>> I have a quick question for you. I recently upgraded my receiver from a
>>> Pioneer VSX-412k to a Denon AVR-2105 (885). What a difference I have a
>>> pair of Klipsch SF-2's in the front and I noticed that when I upgraded I
>>> lost quite a bit of bass. I did not move the speakers at all, but on the
>>> Pioneer I had a Loudness/Midnight button which made the music more full
>>> in general and definately more bass. In fact in "stereo" mode and in
>>> "loudness" the SF-2's created such nice bass that I would turn the sub
>>> off. This isn't the case with the Denon. I noticed that most mid-higher
>>> end models do not have this loudness feature. Why is that? Don't get me
>>> wrong, the Denon sounds better all around. I am just curious why that
>>> feature is not widely used on the more expensive models.
>>>
>>> Yes, this is a very popular way to "improve" bass. Commonly, the
>>> loudness button is used when listening musc at low levels, why? because
>>> it adds artificially like 10db of more bass at certain frequencies,
>>> which can stress your amp at high volumes. The only thing that the
>>> loudness button does is to "color" the sound and this isn't a desirable
>>> thing because it distorts the main source. The sound isn't going to be
>>> "pure" if you want to look it this way.
>>>
>>>
>>> "shimtas kinieciu"  wrote in message
>>> news:l605lm$4m8$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
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>>> o jeigu vietoj loudness tiesiok garseu pasileist? ;)
>>>
>>> "Tomas"  wrote in message news:l5vqdn$ote$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
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>>> OJ tiksliai, pamirsau dar pasakyti kad tame mano Denon PMA700AE ijungtas
>>> turi buti "loudness" mygtukas, be jo visisika pieva, tikrai garsas tampa
>>> bukas bukas, ne del to kad sumazeja zemu ar aukstu dazniu, o tiesiog
>>> pati
>>> scena susitraukia ant tiek kad nu tikrai nemalonu klausyt ir ijungt ji
>>> reikia vel atgal.. Tembru abu reguliatoriai ant 0 ir ju didint tikrai
>>> nesinori... bet va tas loudness tai keistas kazkoks, net esant didesniam
>>> garsui zenkliai itakoja garsa, nors kaip suprantu jis teoriskai prie
>>> didesnio garso nebeturetu turet reiksmes? Nu zodziu visai as buvau
>>> uzmirses
>>> apie sita mygtuka... :) Nu nepykit :)
>>>
>>> "CodeC" <c@c.co> wrote in message
>>> news:l5vpr8$oam$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>> On 11/13/2013 02:00 PM, Icetom wrote:
>>>>>> ir panasu kad reikia stiprintuvo, bet negi DAC'as pamaisys? ir
>>>>>> integruotos kortos....
>>>>>
>>>>> Jei paaiškėtų, kad kaltas stiprintuvas ir jis taip "nudusina"
>>>>> ateinantį
>>>>> signalą, kad nebelieka skirtumo koks šaltinis- stalinis, nešiojamas ar
>>>>> išorinis SAK, kokia prasmė leisti pinigus išoriniam SAK'ui?
>>>>
>>>> tavo zodziuose prasme yra tik tuo atveju, jeigu jo stiprintuve
>>>> signalas eina per skaitmenini garso reguliatoriu ir
>>>> filtra/ekvalaizeri, kuriu neina fiziskai atjungti. tada taip, glai
>>>> buti kaltas 'stiprintuvas', tiksliau ne pats galios stiprintuvas, o
>>>> tie shudo verti blokai pries ji.
>>>> turejau toki SONY gaidy, tai dieve dieve, nederinta smadielka su
>>>> neatrinktais tranzais po 5 Lt/vnt grojo ZYMIAI geriau.
>>>>
>>>
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