Tema: Re: Del DAC
Autorius: shimtas kinieciu
Data: 2013-11-13 20:22:21
o vat kaiptik tais atveajeis tas loud miktukas labeusei ir netinkamas nes 
bosai aina keurai viska ;)


"Dainiushas"  wrote in message news:l60f5t$a6j$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...

nevisada imanoma.

On 2013.11.13 19:16, shimtas kinieciu wrote:
> tam reik klausit nepertilei ;)
>
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> "Dainiushas"  wrote in message news:l606ar$587$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
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> ne apgavystė. briedas ta angelska rašliava. su sąlyga, kad ausies
> dažninė charakteristika yra kreiva ir su tą salyga, prie mažų garso
> lygių, žemus ir aukštus girdi blogiau nei vidurius. Tam kompensuot ir
> skirtas loudness.
>
> On 2013.11.13 17:28, shimtas kinieciu wrote:
>> nes apgaviste tas loudness ;)
>>
>> http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/amps-pre-pros-receivers/5646-loudness-button.html
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a quick question for you. I recently upgraded my receiver from a
>> Pioneer VSX-412k to a Denon AVR-2105 (885). What a difference I have a
>> pair of Klipsch SF-2's in the front and I noticed that when I upgraded I
>> lost quite a bit of bass. I did not move the speakers at all, but on the
>> Pioneer I had a Loudness/Midnight button which made the music more full
>> in general and definately more bass. In fact in "stereo" mode and in
>> "loudness" the SF-2's created such nice bass that I would turn the sub
>> off. This isn't the case with the Denon. I noticed that most mid-higher
>> end models do not have this loudness feature. Why is that? Don't get me
>> wrong, the Denon sounds better all around. I am just curious why that
>> feature is not widely used on the more expensive models.
>>
>> Yes, this is a very popular way to "improve" bass. Commonly, the
>> loudness button is used when listening musc at low levels, why? because
>> it adds artificially like 10db of more bass at certain frequencies,
>> which can stress your amp at high volumes. The only thing that the
>> loudness button does is to "color" the sound and this isn't a desirable
>> thing because it distorts the main source. The sound isn't going to be
>> "pure" if you want to look it this way.
>>
>>
>> "shimtas kinieciu"  wrote in message
>> news:l605lm$4m8$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
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>> o jeigu vietoj loudness tiesiok garseu pasileist? ;)
>>
>> "Tomas"  wrote in message news:l5vqdn$ote$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
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>> OJ tiksliai, pamirsau dar pasakyti kad tame mano Denon PMA700AE ijungtas
>> turi buti "loudness" mygtukas, be jo visisika pieva, tikrai garsas tampa
>> bukas bukas, ne del to kad sumazeja zemu ar aukstu dazniu, o tiesiog pati
>> scena susitraukia ant tiek kad nu tikrai nemalonu klausyt ir ijungt ji
>> reikia vel atgal.. Tembru abu reguliatoriai ant 0 ir ju didint tikrai
>> nesinori... bet va tas loudness tai keistas kazkoks, net esant didesniam
>> garsui zenkliai itakoja garsa, nors kaip suprantu jis teoriskai prie
>> didesnio garso nebeturetu turet reiksmes? Nu zodziu visai as buvau
>> uzmirses
>> apie sita mygtuka... :) Nu nepykit :)
>>
>> "CodeC" <c@c.co> wrote in message
>> news:l5vpr8$oam$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>> On 11/13/2013 02:00 PM, Icetom wrote:
>>>>> ir panasu kad reikia stiprintuvo, bet negi DAC'as pamaisys? ir
>>>>> integruotos kortos....
>>>>
>>>> Jei paaiškėtų, kad kaltas stiprintuvas ir jis taip "nudusina" ateinantį
>>>> signalą, kad nebelieka skirtumo koks šaltinis- stalinis, nešiojamas ar
>>>> išorinis SAK, kokia prasmė leisti pinigus išoriniam SAK'ui?
>>>
>>> tavo zodziuose prasme yra tik tuo atveju, jeigu jo stiprintuve
>>> signalas eina per skaitmenini garso reguliatoriu ir
>>> filtra/ekvalaizeri, kuriu neina fiziskai atjungti. tada taip, glai
>>> buti kaltas 'stiprintuvas', tiksliau ne pats galios stiprintuvas, o
>>> tie shudo verti blokai pries ji.
>>> turejau toki SONY gaidy, tai dieve dieve, nederinta smadielka su
>>> neatrinktais tranzais po 5 Lt/vnt grojo ZYMIAI geriau.
>>>
>>
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