aš gi įdėjau grafikėlį. ten viskas paaiškinta. Ne denonuose ir watuose esmė. On 2013.11.13 20:24, shimtas kinieciu wrote: > ps padorios koloneles grazei groja ir negarsei. ar tik nebus ten pas jy > tas denonas banalei per silpnas joms ;) > > > "shimtas kinieciu" wrote in message > news:l60g0t$apq$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > > o vat kaiptik tais atveajeis tas loud miktukas labeusei ir netinkamas nes > bosai aina keurai viska ;) > > > "Dainiushas" wrote in message news:l60f5t$a6j$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > > nevisada imanoma. > > On 2013.11.13 19:16, shimtas kinieciu wrote: >> tam reik klausit nepertilei ;) >> >> >> "Dainiushas" wrote in message news:l606ar$587$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >> >> ne apgavystė. briedas ta angelska rašliava. su sąlyga, kad ausies >> dažninė charakteristika yra kreiva ir su tą salyga, prie mažų garso >> lygių, žemus ir aukštus girdi blogiau nei vidurius. Tam kompensuot ir >> skirtas loudness. >> >> On 2013.11.13 17:28, shimtas kinieciu wrote: >>> nes apgaviste tas loudness ;) >>> >>> http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/amps-pre-pros-receivers/5646-loudness-button.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I have a quick question for you. I recently upgraded my receiver from a >>> Pioneer VSX-412k to a Denon AVR-2105 (885). What a difference I have a >>> pair of Klipsch SF-2's in the front and I noticed that when I upgraded I >>> lost quite a bit of bass. I did not move the speakers at all, but on the >>> Pioneer I had a Loudness/Midnight button which made the music more full >>> in general and definately more bass. In fact in "stereo" mode and in >>> "loudness" the SF-2's created such nice bass that I would turn the sub >>> off. This isn't the case with the Denon. I noticed that most mid-higher >>> end models do not have this loudness feature. Why is that? Don't get me >>> wrong, the Denon sounds better all around. I am just curious why that >>> feature is not widely used on the more expensive models. >>> >>> Yes, this is a very popular way to "improve" bass. Commonly, the >>> loudness button is used when listening musc at low levels, why? because >>> it adds artificially like 10db of more bass at certain frequencies, >>> which can stress your amp at high volumes. The only thing that the >>> loudness button does is to "color" the sound and this isn't a desirable >>> thing because it distorts the main source. The sound isn't going to be >>> "pure" if you want to look it this way. >>> >>> >>> "shimtas kinieciu" wrote in message >>> news:l605lm$4m8$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>> >>> o jeigu vietoj loudness tiesiok garseu pasileist? ;) >>> >>> "Tomas" wrote in message news:l5vqdn$ote$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>> >>> OJ tiksliai, pamirsau dar pasakyti kad tame mano Denon PMA700AE ijungtas >>> turi buti "loudness" mygtukas, be jo visisika pieva, tikrai garsas tampa >>> bukas bukas, ne del to kad sumazeja zemu ar aukstu dazniu, o tiesiog >>> pati >>> scena susitraukia ant tiek kad nu tikrai nemalonu klausyt ir ijungt ji >>> reikia vel atgal.. Tembru abu reguliatoriai ant 0 ir ju didint tikrai >>> nesinori... bet va tas loudness tai keistas kazkoks, net esant didesniam >>> garsui zenkliai itakoja garsa, nors kaip suprantu jis teoriskai prie >>> didesnio garso nebeturetu turet reiksmes? Nu zodziu visai as buvau >>> uzmirses >>> apie sita mygtuka... :) Nu nepykit :) >>> >>> "CodeC" <c@c.co> wrote in message >>> news:l5vpr8$oam$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>> On 11/13/2013 02:00 PM, Icetom wrote: >>>>>> ir panasu kad reikia stiprintuvo, bet negi DAC'as pamaisys? ir >>>>>> integruotos kortos.... >>>>> >>>>> Jei paaiškėtų, kad kaltas stiprintuvas ir jis taip "nudusina" >>>>> ateinantį >>>>> signalą, kad nebelieka skirtumo koks šaltinis- stalinis, nešiojamas ar >>>>> išorinis SAK, kokia prasmė leisti pinigus išoriniam SAK'ui? >>>> >>>> tavo zodziuose prasme yra tik tuo atveju, jeigu jo stiprintuve >>>> signalas eina per skaitmenini garso reguliatoriu ir >>>> filtra/ekvalaizeri, kuriu neina fiziskai atjungti. tada taip, glai >>>> buti kaltas 'stiprintuvas', tiksliau ne pats galios stiprintuvas, o >>>> tie shudo verti blokai pries ji. >>>> turejau toki SONY gaidy, tai dieve dieve, nederinta smadielka su >>>> neatrinktais tranzais po 5 Lt/vnt grojo ZYMIAI geriau. >>>> >>> >>