Transcendentinis yra tavo apibrezhimas, uzh patyrimo ribu, anapus patyrimo, metafizinis, transcendentalinis yra jo antipodas - t.y. shiapus patyrimo ribu, kiek mano patyrimo ribos apema. T.y. Transcendentalines logikos ribose galima postuluoti - visos moterys turi krutis, matau bankoko kabake sutikau zhmogu su didelem krutim -> tai moteris.. Ir chia mano transcendentaline logika prasiplechia, ir del to keichiasi mano premisos - ne vien motery buna su krutim:) Transcendentaline logika ir yra empirine logika, kuri apima tiek ir tik tiek, kiek asmeninis patyrimas. taigi tamstos pasiulymas paskaityti empirinis vs transcendentalinis patyrimas yra na, nevalidus kaip minimum. "smokas" <no@nop.nop> wrote in message news:i50ar9$jg6$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > Beje - ish tikro - gal apibrezk, kuo TRANSCENDENTINIS nuo > TRANSCENDENTALINIO skiriasi? - ir laiko sutaupysi ir protingas > pasirodysi :) - tiesiog skirtumus pavardink? e.g. > > 1. > 2. > 3. > > > > > On 2010-08-24 14:26:08 +0300, Toxis@ze_yvil_place said: > >> tai ish tikruju neskiri! ta ir norejau suzhinot.. kas idomiausia, kad >> pats kantas ir kategorishkai atskyre shias savokas:) >> >> "smokas" <no@nop.nop> wrote in message news:i508te$g9k$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >> >> > Tartautini zodziu zodynas: >> >> > >> >> > transcendentinis [lot. transcendens (kilm. transcendentis) - >> >> > peržengiantis] 1. filos. esantis anapus kokios nors sferos, anapus >> >> > pasaulio; neprieinamas patyrimui; I. Kanto filosofijoje - esantis už >> >> > sąmonės ir pažinimo ribų (“daiktas pats savaime”); 2. mat. >> >> > transcendentus. >> >> > >> >> > On 2010-08-24 13:56:41 +0300, Toxis@ze_yvil_place said: >> >> > >> >> >> http://www.filosofija.vu.lt/tekstai/kantas.htm#_Toc98261573 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> na, mane tokios terminologijos ishmoke filosofijos fakas, jei tamstai >> >> >> zhinoma kazhkokia asmenine terminologija, deja nieko negaliu padet, ar >> >> >> mes tiesiog visgi nezhinom skirtumo tarp transcendentilines ir >> >> >> trenscendentines? >> >> >> >> >> >> "smokas" <no@nop.nop> wrote in message >> news:i506ov$cng$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >> >> >> >> >> >> > Joo - ryte uzsimauname sock'us, apsivelkame jacket'a ir draiviname i >> >> >> worka :))) >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Geresni buda, kaip pademonstruoti savo neishmanyma filosofijos >> >> >> >> >> >> > LIETUVISHKUOSE terminuose (transcendentalinis :))))) ir ergo >> >> >> >> >> >> > filosofijoje bei parodyti liumpenintelektualishkas zagres rankenas ish >> >> >> >> >> >> > kisheniu sunku buvo sugalvoti :) >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 2010-08-24 09:52:52 +0300, Toxis@ze_yvil_place said: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Empirinis~transcendentalinis pazhinimas (ar mes maishom transcendentini >> >> >> >> >> >> >> su transcendentaliniu?). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "smokas" <no@nop.nop> wrote in message >> >> >> news:i4ueqf$gc8$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Na gal tamsta paskaitykite empirinis vs transcendendinis pazinimas, ir >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > paaishkes kodel agnostikai ateistus silpnaprochiais laiko :) - maziau >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> ostapo benderio lygio ateistine propaganda su sovietinio meshlo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> > kvapeliu reikes varineti :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> > On 2010-08-23 21:28:14 +0300, trickyvic said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> >> Ateistas automatiskai yra tas zmogus kuris netiki i sugalvotus pasaku >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> >> herojus ? Ar tas kuris mano kad krikscionybe yra gerai organizuotas >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> >> kartelis, naudojantis savo galias masiu valdymui, savo reikmems >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> >> tenkinti? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >> smokas wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> ateistas=idiotas. tai dar kantas gryno proto kritikoje >>>>>>> numate. geodelis >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> matematishkai pagrinde. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> On 2010-08-23 21:19:34 +0300, trickyvic said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>> Skirtingai nuo tamstos as savo perskaitytu knygu >>>>>>> neskaiciuoju, nes nei >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>> perskaitytu knygu skaicius nei dydis nei storis nera >>>>>>> visiskai jiokiu >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>> argumentu betkokioje diskusijoje. Kad ir kaip stengciausi >>>>>>> izvelgi, bet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> diskusijos siuo atveju nematau. Matau tik kabinejimasi prie >>>>>>> zodziu, bei >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> niekuo nepagrystus niekinamo pobudzio deminutyvinius >>>>>>> kreipinius. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Snargliai incilekta rodo? - naujiena :) - kiek knygu >>>>>>> per gyvenima >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>> perskaitei, ateisteli? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>> On 2010-08-23 19:31:14 +0300, trickyvic said: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Geriau jau ateistine tryda, nei zombokatalikybe, man >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> idomiausia kada >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> toje kontoroje padarys viesa audita... 2000 metu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> marketingo skyrius >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> veike be priekaistu as isivaizduoju kokius bonusus jie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> ten susikrove... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >