Tema: Re: Biblija Vaikams - Vilniuje
Autorius: smokas
Data: 2010-08-24 14:52:40
Jo - o ash Sodeika per ta laika paskaichiau, lietuviai vel tarp 3 
terminu pasiklydo?
Anglai su transcendental ishsiverchia, kokiam asilui - vertejui ish 
filosofu prieike painiava terminuose ivesti?

On 2010-08-24 14:40:02 +0300, Toxis@ze_yvil_place said:

> kadangi neturiu poranka (darbe) kanto, o originalo kalba deja jo neteko 
> skaityt, gal pradzhiai pakaks ishtraukos ish  prof A. Plėšnio 
> "Analitinės Krypties filosofija": "Savąjį tyrimo būdą Kantas vadina 
> transcendentaliniu, skirdamas jį nuo transcendentinio tyrimo. Mat 
> transcendentinis tyrimas, anot Kanto, peržengdamas patyrimą, siekia 
> pažinti daiktÄ
>  tokį, koks jis yra savaime (tai, kÄ
>  Aristotelis vadintų bÅ«timi pirmÄ
> ja prasme), o tai, atseit, neįmanoma. O transcendentaliniu Kantas 
> vadina „kiekvieną pažinimą, kuriam apskritai labiau rūpi ne objektai, 
> bet būdas, kuriuo mes pažįstame objektus, kiek šis būdas turi būti 
> galimas a priori“5. Vadinasi, metafizika, kuri siekia būti mokslu, o ne 
> nuolatinių ginčų, prieštaravimų ir klaidų arena, privalo tirti ne 
> transcendentinius objektus, bet pažinimo būdą, kiek jis galimas a 
> priori. Pažinimo būdas, o ne būtis yra pagrindinis, Kanto požiūriu, 
> filosofijos uždavinys. Kanto vartojamas žodis transcendentalinis gali 
> suklaidinti mažiau atidų skaitytoją. Lygiai kaip „transcendentalinis 
> pasaulio pažinimas“ reiškia būdo, kuriuo pažįstamas pasaulis, o ne 
> pasaulio pažinimą, taip ir „transcendentalinis Dievo pažinimas“ 
> nereiškia Dievo pažinimo. "
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> Plėšnys А., "Analitinės Krypties filosofija" Leidykla: VU leidykla 2010 
> m.  p. 7
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> "smokas" <no@nop.nop> wrote in message news:i50ah5$iuu$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
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> > Gali pacituoti tai originalo kalba?
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> > On 2010-08-24 14:26:08 +0300, Toxis@ze_yvil_place said:
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> >> tai ish tikruju neskiri! ta ir norejau suzhinot.. kas idomiausia, kad 
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> >> pats kantas ir kategorishkai atskyre shias savokas:) 
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> >> "smokas" <no@nop.nop> wrote in message 
> news:i508te$g9k$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
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>>>> Tartautini zodziu zodynas:
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>>>> >> > peržengiantis] 1. filos. esantis anapus kokios nors sferos, anapus 
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>>>> >> > On 2010-08-24 13:56:41 +0300, Toxis@ze_yvil_place said:
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>>>> >> >> http://www.filosofija.vu.lt/tekstai/kantas.htm#_Toc98261573
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>>>> >> >> > LIETUVISHKUOSE terminuose (transcendentalinis :))))) ir ergo 
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