realiai gi tai nieko jungt nereiks. Tie patys troike ir pasatas - vienas penkta pavara 100km/h ~3000rpm, kitas ~2000rpm. Praktishkai viskas 1:1 ir atitinka, tai kur tu randi skirtuma? "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message news:gvj8mn$m3q$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > nu va, perejom iki "perjunkit pavara" > > O cia jau prasideda tikrasis komfortas "perjungti begi vs neperjungti" > > > "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:gvj7ak$jf5$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >> nu tai po velniu, perjunkit pavara. Dyzeliui 3.5k yra toks pat grezhimas, >> kaip benzinui 5k..... >> >> "Hollow" <SPAMhollow@elekta.lt> wrote in message >> news:gvj3g7$cfm$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>> prie ko cia mazda, taip, pas japonus torko nera, bet tai apie ta ir >>> kalbam, kad torkas isibegejime duoda daug. >>> >>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:gvj2eo$aod$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>> nu tai sakau, nezhinau ash kodel pas mazda tokia idijotishka sukimo >>>> momento kreive. Tracijos ten matyt pas juo tokios. >>>> >>>> >>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>> news:gvj26t$abf$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>> 150ag KUR? prie 6000rpm? >>>>> >>>>> O prie 3000rpm kiek? 75ag? >>>>> >>>>> Tai 75ag vs 120ag (dyzelio 3000rpm) >>>>> >>>>> 0_o >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:gvj1nv$9eo$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>> nu tai gal atsakymas "mazda"? >>>>>> >>>>>> NEGALI but stebuklo Negali. 150AG ir afrikoj yra 150AG. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Hollow" <SPAMhollow@elekta.lt> wrote in message >>>>>> news:gvj1gv$929$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>> nu ble, su tdi vazinejes ir tau xujne torkas? Siandien testavau >>>>>>> mazda 5, 2.0 150ag kazkas. Kasdien vazineju su 150ag tdi. Tai >>>>>>> skirtumas kaip diena ir naktis ir aiskinkit jus ka norit. Net ir >>>>>>> uzkelus apsukas nevalit ta mazda, nu nevalit... Ypac kai greitis nuo >>>>>>> 100km/h. Su tdi ir -u begiu pagreitejimas zymiai didesnis nei toj >>>>>>> mazdoj 3-iu. Taip, taip, tai minivenas, taciau teko testuot ir mazda >>>>>>> 6 su tokiu varikliu, ispudis panasus. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:gvitpg$2gf$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>> Juzefai, huinia tas torkas zhinok. Yra labai geras to pavyzdys su >>>>>>>> VW Caddy, 55kW ir berods 215NM. Spek kokiam diapazone tie NM? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:gvitlt$29g$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>> Hint1: mazesnis sukimo momentas i ratus = didesnis greitis >>>>>>>>> (nereikia taip daznai jungti begiu) ! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hint2: kai Nm skiriasi 2.5karto tai 1.5x reduktorius neatstoja >>>>>>>>> (ilgesni begiai = didesnis greiti islieka) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 0_o >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:gvitd2$1p1$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>> tai, kad i tavo interpretaciju vingius nelabai ir taikau.... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:gvit5h$1ci$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>> Geriau parasyk ka TU rukai nes bandai kazka protingo pasakyti >>>>>>>>>>> bet nu nihuja nepataikai. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:gvit4f$1ac$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> blet, rimc. Parashyk ka rukai, ir ash noriu. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvisuf$ur$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>O vazineji visa laika tuo paciu vienu begiu? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Zjb! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 0_o >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvisnh$gf$2@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nu, tos pachios. Su 1.5x besiskirianchiu perdavimu.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvishs$vsd$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kokios dar transmisijos? tos pacios 5pavaru dezes? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvis9v$vcr$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nu jo, ant tiek nebuki. Bet iki trasmisijos dar dasiprotet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nepakanka..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvirtv$ulf$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeigu ji svertu tiek kiek masina tai ciulptu dar ir kaip. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bet tai ant kiek mes nebuki turbut ir ta suprantam? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gviqml$scj$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nu jo. Brytva su savo 100NM ishvis chiulpia.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gviq5s$rdt$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ji vaziuoja blogiau. Taskas. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvippi$qmp$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tai gal populiariai paaishkinsi, kodel troike su 180NM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vazhiuoja neblogiau nei pasatas su 240NM? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvipe9$q2s$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kad nereikia kalti antros saibos norint koki kibira >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pirmoje juostoje aplenkti, o tik gazo duodi ir iskarto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> begejasi. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Siaip niutonai yra visa ko esme ir valinimas ir trauka >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (bendrai paemus), taigi kuo ju daugiau tuo geriau >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mindaugas" <seimas@dega.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvip9g$pp9$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Durnam man paaiskinkit, kur tu niutonu dziaugsmas? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kad penkta saiba is vietos pajudet gali ar kas? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvhbne$hea$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taip. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Na juk niekas ten nepageres kardinaliai su tokiu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> galingumo padidejimu. Tik va dyzeliai dziugina >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mieste poto, su savo nm. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Feniksas" <audriusTRINTI@TRINTIcablenet.lt> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in message news:gvhb4v$gop$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is ~19% is 1.67L dyzelio...? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvhan5$ga5$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tai praktiskai nulis. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Feniksas" <audriusTRINTI@TRINTIcablenet.lt> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvhaej$g1a$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nu pvz 318 tds keliasi nuo 90AG iki ~110AG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perprogramuojant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "LabaiNeSpauda" <bimbam@samxam.lt> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message news:gvh91k$eg8$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pas dumu naxalishkai nelabai matosi, ta prasme >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO, kaip ir turetu buti. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O to nemachiau, bo aplenkt tai jam neishejo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bet kad gerai vazhiuoja tas tds tai tikrai. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvh7rh$d5u$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ar daug is jo dumu buvo? Nes sitas gerai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vaziuojantis, turi daug dumu duoti. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O taviski galima sureguliuoti, kad dumu nebutu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "LabaiNeSpauda" <bimbam@samxam.lt> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvh4uc$a5o$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kaliegos, a shyta 2,5 tds normaliai turbinasi? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shiandien kazkokie 2 chiuvai su tds mane nuo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rumsishkiu persekiojo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tai man kazkaip skirtumas traukos nepasirode >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didelis, todel susinervijau. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tai va galvoju ar mano viedras nevazhiuoja ar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ten tas tds su vishniom. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >