nesiginu, aplanke. kiek daznai spurtuoji spausdamas iki max? plius nefasonas su f10 butu plesytis ant sviesoforu su guoliais (na bent jau mano amziui) "Arnas" <arnas@bbd.lt> wrote in message news:i85llp$s0p$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > na jei nuo 6.5 sek ir 8 nera skirtumo akivaizdu kad aplanke senatve ;) > > "Mooney" <alaus@krastas.lt> wrote in message > news:i85bph$ism$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >> a) pointas buvo, kad f10 didesnis ir sunkesnis uz e38 pvz ir beveik >> nesiskiria nuo e65 >> b) del 'grazesnio' - sutikim kad tai subjektyvu ir asmeniska, ok? >> c) del greitesnio - buvo ivairiais analogiskais varikliais bandymu daryta >> tarp f10 ir e60 - negreitesnis ziede bent jau f10. ir siaip, nuo kada bmw >> greicio truksta - jei islipa auto is 10 sek iki 100 tai ir gana. koks >> realus skirtumas tarp auto kur 100 pasiekia per 6.5 ir kitos kur ta pat >> per 8 sek? realiam gyvenime - jokio, nebent jaunystes spuogai ir hormonai >> siaucia ir norisi pasirodyti pries kiemo chebra :) >> >> >> >> "Arnas" <arnas@bbd.lt> wrote in message >> news:i857rq$e9n$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>> visad naujam modeliui ishejus buna kruvos neigiamu nuomoniu. Taip pat >>> buvo ir su e60. faktas tas kad F10 550i uzh e60 550i ir grazhesnis ir >>> greitesnis ir tikriausiai ekonomishkesnis. Kaip sakant shunes loja bet >>> karavanas eina tolyn :) >>> >>> "Mooney" <alaus@krastas.lt> wrote in message >>> news:i857cm$dnf$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>> perpostinu viena posta rasta viename is bmw forumu: >>>> >>>> Just thought it would be fun to see how our beloved 5 series has >>>> evolved from a sports sedan to a luxury cruiser... >>>> >>>> Many believe the F10 is the reincarnation of the E39, but that couldnt >>>> be further from the truth. >>>> >>>> >>>> E39 2002 540i >>>> Wheelbase 2830 mm 111.4 in >>>> >>>> Track front 1516 mm 59.7 in >>>> rear 1530 mm 60.2 in >>>> Length 4775 mm 188 in >>>> Width 1800 mm 70.9 in >>>> Height 1435 mm 56.5 in >>>> >>>> >>>> Kerb weight 1705 kg 3759 lb >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> E60 2005 550i >>>> >>>> >>>> Wheelbase 2888 mm 113.7 in >>>> >>>> Track front 1558 mm 61.3 in >>>> rear 1582 mm 62.3 in >>>> Length 4841 mm 190.6 in >>>> Width 1846 mm 72.7 in >>>> Height 1468 mm 57.8 in >>>> >>>> >>>> Kerb weight 1735 kg 3825 lb >>>> >>>> >>>> F10 2011 550i >>>> >>>> >>>> Wheelbase 2968 mm 116.9 >>>> >>>> Track front 1600 mm 63.0in >>>> rear 1627 mm 64.1in >>>> Length 193.1in >>>> Width 1860 mm 73.2in >>>> Height 1464 mm 57.6in >>>> >>>> >>>> Kerb weight 4376lbs >>>> >>>> >>>> In looking at the numbers, the E39 to E60 was a rather smooth >>>> transition to a larger class vehicle, but at the same time, retained >>>> its weight with minimal gains (66lb increase) due to the larger >>>> dimensions. >>>> >>>> But, when we look at the E60 to F10, the numbers show a stark contrast >>>> for a car in the same class/segment...More than 3inches in wheelbase, >>>> more than 550lbs heavier! >>>> >>>> And in the phantom comparisons of the E39 to F10, where some propose >>>> that those that loved the E39 will flock to the F10 now because of the >>>> less controversial design elements, those E39 folks will be in for a >>>> real shock when they get behind the wheel...the F10 is 5.5 inches >>>> longer in wheelbase, and 617 more pounds! I would like to hear from >>>> anyone that has an E39 that drove the F10 back to back to get their >>>> feelings on this increase in mass. >>>> >>>> >>>> Now, in looking back in time, 1998, the E38 7er: >>>> >>>> E38 '98 740i >>>> >>>> Wheelbase 2930 mm 115.4 in >>>> >>>> Track front 1552 mm 61.1 in >>>> rear 1568 mm 61.7 in >>>> Length 4984 mm 196.2 in >>>> Width 1862 mm 73.3 in >>>> Height 1435 mm 56.5 in >>>> >>>> >>>> Kerb weight 1885 kg 4156 lb >>>> >>>> >>>> So, the F10 has a longer wheelbase and weighs 220lbs more that a 7er >>>> just 10 years removed! >>>> >>>> >>>> And even comparing to the E65: >>>> >>>> >>>> E65 2001 745i >>>> >>>> >>>> Wheelbase 2990 mm 117.7 in >>>> >>>> Track front 1586 mm 62.4 in >>>> rear 1590 mm 62.6 in >>>> Length 5029 mm 198.0 in >>>> Width 1902 mm 74.9 in >>>> Height 1492 mm 58.7 in >>>> >>>> >>>> Kerb weight 1945 kg 4288 lb >>>> >>>> >>>> Just 0.8 of an inch differentiates the F10 from the E65 in wheelbase, >>>> and still, the F10 weighs 98 lbs more! >>>> >>>> >>>> So, while no one argues or would argue that the F10 is a refined luxury >>>> sedan, it has grown to proportions that take it out of its own class >>>> size, and ultimately has killed the notion that the 5 series is a >>>> Sports saloon, its a full size luxury vehicle with lots of power, and >>>> it certainly is BIGGER than your Daddy's 7 Series. >>>> >>>> >>>> So whats left for a 4 door Sports saloon from BMW??? Leaving out the >>>> Gran Coupe since it will be big for sure, (perhaps bigger than F10) >>>> that only leaves one model...Looking at the current E90 which has grown >>>> as well over the past decade, one can deduce that the F30 will grow >>>> approx to the exact size dimensions as the former E39 5 series, just >>>> add a couple of inches to the wheelbase and about 200lbs, and its a >>>> near match... >>>> >>>> 2010 E90 335i >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Wheelbase 2760 mm 108.7 in >>>> >>>> Track front 1500 mm 59.1 in >>>> rear 1529 mm 60.2 in >>>> Length 4531 mm 178.4 in >>>> Width 1817 mm 71.5 in >>>> Height 1421 mm 55.9 in >>>> >>>> >>>> Kerb weight 1625 kg 3583 lb >>>> >>>> And the sad news about the F30 is that supposedly M has already decided >>>> NOT to make a 4door M3 due to the low sales of the E90 M3 (guess they >>>> didnt hear about our members support!), so there may not be any future >>>> agile, 4door, sports saloon available from M >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >