na jei nuo 6.5 sek ir 8 nera skirtumo akivaizdu kad aplanke senatve ;)

"Mooney" <alaus@krastas.lt> wrote in message 
news:i85bph$ism$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
> a) pointas buvo, kad f10 didesnis ir sunkesnis uz e38 pvz ir beveik 
> nesiskiria nuo e65
> b) del 'grazesnio' - sutikim kad tai subjektyvu ir asmeniska, ok?
> c) del greitesnio - buvo ivairiais analogiskais varikliais bandymu daryta 
> tarp f10 ir e60 - negreitesnis ziede bent jau f10. ir siaip, nuo kada bmw 
> greicio truksta - jei islipa auto is 10 sek iki 100 tai ir gana. koks 
> realus skirtumas tarp auto kur 100 pasiekia per 6.5 ir kitos kur ta pat 
> per 8 sek? realiam gyvenime - jokio, nebent jaunystes spuogai ir hormonai 
> siaucia ir norisi pasirodyti pries kiemo chebra :)
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> "Arnas" <arnas@bbd.lt> wrote in message 
> news:i857rq$e9n$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>> visad naujam modeliui ishejus buna kruvos neigiamu nuomoniu. Taip pat 
>> buvo ir su e60. faktas tas kad F10 550i uzh e60 550i ir grazhesnis ir 
>> greitesnis ir tikriausiai ekonomishkesnis. Kaip sakant shunes loja bet 
>> karavanas eina tolyn :)
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>> "Mooney" <alaus@krastas.lt> wrote in message 
>> news:i857cm$dnf$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>> perpostinu viena posta rasta viename is bmw forumu:
>>>
>>> Just thought it would be fun to see how our beloved 5 series has evolved 
>>> from a sports sedan to a luxury cruiser...
>>>
>>> Many believe the F10 is the reincarnation of the E39, but that couldnt 
>>> be further from the truth.
>>>
>>>
>>> E39 2002 540i
>>> Wheelbase 2830 mm 111.4 in
>>>
>>> Track front 1516 mm 59.7 in
>>> rear 1530 mm 60.2 in
>>> Length 4775 mm 188 in
>>> Width 1800 mm 70.9 in
>>> Height 1435 mm 56.5 in
>>>
>>>
>>> Kerb weight 1705 kg 3759 lb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> E60 2005 550i
>>>
>>>
>>> Wheelbase 2888 mm 113.7 in
>>>
>>> Track front 1558 mm 61.3 in
>>> rear 1582 mm 62.3 in
>>> Length 4841 mm 190.6 in
>>> Width 1846 mm 72.7 in
>>> Height 1468 mm 57.8 in
>>>
>>>
>>> Kerb weight 1735 kg 3825 lb
>>>
>>>
>>> F10 2011 550i
>>>
>>>
>>> Wheelbase 2968 mm 116.9
>>>
>>> Track front 1600 mm 63.0in
>>> rear 1627 mm 64.1in
>>> Length 193.1in
>>> Width 1860 mm 73.2in
>>> Height 1464 mm 57.6in
>>>
>>>
>>> Kerb weight 4376lbs
>>>
>>>
>>> In looking at the numbers, the E39 to E60 was a rather smooth transition 
>>> to a larger class vehicle, but at the same time, retained its weight 
>>> with minimal gains (66lb increase) due to the larger dimensions.
>>>
>>> But, when we look at the E60 to F10, the numbers show a stark contrast 
>>> for a car in the same class/segment...More than 3inches in wheelbase, 
>>> more than 550lbs heavier!
>>>
>>> And in the phantom comparisons of the E39 to F10, where some propose 
>>> that those that loved the E39 will flock to the F10 now because of the 
>>> less controversial design elements, those E39 folks will be in for a 
>>> real shock when they get behind the wheel...the F10 is 5.5 inches longer 
>>> in wheelbase, and 617 more pounds! I would like to hear from anyone that 
>>> has an E39 that drove the F10 back to back to get their feelings on this 
>>> increase in mass.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now, in looking back in time, 1998, the E38 7er:
>>>
>>> E38 '98 740i
>>>
>>> Wheelbase 2930 mm 115.4 in
>>>
>>> Track front 1552 mm 61.1 in
>>> rear 1568 mm 61.7 in
>>> Length 4984 mm 196.2 in
>>> Width 1862 mm 73.3 in
>>> Height 1435 mm 56.5 in
>>>
>>>
>>> Kerb weight 1885 kg 4156 lb
>>>
>>>
>>> So, the F10 has a longer wheelbase and weighs 220lbs more that a 7er 
>>> just 10 years removed!
>>>
>>>
>>> And even comparing to the E65:
>>>
>>>
>>> E65 2001 745i
>>>
>>>
>>> Wheelbase 2990 mm 117.7 in
>>>
>>> Track front 1586 mm 62.4 in
>>> rear 1590 mm 62.6 in
>>> Length 5029 mm 198.0 in
>>> Width 1902 mm 74.9 in
>>> Height 1492 mm 58.7 in
>>>
>>>
>>> Kerb weight 1945 kg 4288 lb
>>>
>>>
>>> Just 0.8 of an inch differentiates the F10 from the E65 in wheelbase, 
>>> and still, the F10 weighs 98 lbs more!
>>>
>>>
>>> So, while no one argues or would argue that the F10 is a refined luxury 
>>> sedan, it has grown to proportions that take it out of its own class 
>>> size, and ultimately has killed the notion that the 5 series is a Sports 
>>> saloon, its a full size luxury vehicle with lots of power, and it 
>>> certainly is BIGGER than your Daddy's 7 Series.
>>>
>>>
>>> So whats left for a 4 door Sports saloon from BMW??? Leaving out the 
>>> Gran Coupe since it will be big for sure, (perhaps bigger than F10) that 
>>> only leaves one model...Looking at the current E90 which has grown as 
>>> well over the past decade, one can deduce that the F30 will grow approx 
>>> to the exact size dimensions as the former E39 5 series, just add a 
>>> couple of inches to the wheelbase and about 200lbs, and its a near 
>>> match...
>>>
>>> 2010 E90 335i
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Wheelbase 2760 mm 108.7 in
>>>
>>> Track front 1500 mm 59.1 in
>>> rear 1529 mm 60.2 in
>>> Length 4531 mm 178.4 in
>>> Width 1817 mm 71.5 in
>>> Height 1421 mm 55.9 in
>>>
>>>
>>> Kerb weight 1625 kg 3583 lb
>>>
>>> And the sad news about the F30 is that supposedly M has already decided 
>>> NOT to make a 4door M3 due to the low sales of the E90 M3 (guess they 
>>> didnt hear about our members support!), so there may not be any future 
>>> agile, 4door, sports saloon available from M
>>>
>>>
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