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Just thought it would be fun to see how our beloved 5 series has evolved 
from a sports sedan to a luxury cruiser...

Many believe the F10 is the reincarnation of the E39, but that couldnt be 
further from the truth.


E39 2002 540i
Wheelbase 2830 mm 111.4 in

Track front 1516 mm 59.7 in
rear 1530 mm 60.2 in
Length 4775 mm 188 in
Width 1800 mm 70.9 in
Height 1435 mm 56.5 in


Kerb weight 1705 kg 3759 lb



E60 2005 550i


Wheelbase 2888 mm 113.7 in

Track front 1558 mm 61.3 in
rear 1582 mm 62.3 in
Length 4841 mm 190.6 in
Width 1846 mm 72.7 in
Height 1468 mm 57.8 in


Kerb weight 1735 kg 3825 lb


F10 2011 550i


Wheelbase 2968 mm 116.9

Track front 1600 mm 63.0in
rear 1627 mm 64.1in
Length 193.1in
Width 1860 mm 73.2in
Height 1464 mm 57.6in


Kerb weight 4376lbs


In looking at the numbers, the E39 to E60 was a rather smooth transition to 
a larger class vehicle, but at the same time, retained its weight with 
minimal gains (66lb increase) due to the larger dimensions.

But, when we look at the E60 to F10, the numbers show a stark contrast for a 
car in the same class/segment...More than 3inches in wheelbase, more than 
550lbs heavier!

And in the phantom comparisons of the E39 to F10, where some propose that 
those that loved the E39 will flock to the F10 now because of the less 
controversial design elements, those E39 folks will be in for a real shock 
when they get behind the wheel...the F10 is 5.5 inches longer in wheelbase, 
and 617 more pounds! I would like to hear from anyone that has an E39 that 
drove the F10 back to back to get their feelings on this increase in mass.


Now, in looking back in time, 1998, the E38 7er:

E38 '98 740i

Wheelbase 2930 mm 115.4 in

Track front 1552 mm 61.1 in
rear 1568 mm 61.7 in
Length 4984 mm 196.2 in
Width 1862 mm 73.3 in
Height 1435 mm 56.5 in


Kerb weight 1885 kg 4156 lb


So, the F10 has a longer wheelbase and weighs 220lbs more that a 7er just 10 
years removed!


And even comparing to the E65:


E65 2001 745i


Wheelbase 2990 mm 117.7 in

Track front 1586 mm 62.4 in
rear 1590 mm 62.6 in
Length 5029 mm 198.0 in
Width 1902 mm 74.9 in
Height 1492 mm 58.7 in


Kerb weight 1945 kg 4288 lb


Just 0.8 of an inch differentiates the F10 from the E65 in wheelbase, and 
still, the F10 weighs 98 lbs more!


So, while no one argues or would argue that the F10 is a refined luxury 
sedan, it has grown to proportions that take it out of its own class size, 
and ultimately has killed the notion that the 5 series is a Sports saloon, 
its a full size luxury vehicle with lots of power, and it certainly is 
BIGGER than your Daddy's 7 Series.


So whats left for a 4 door Sports saloon from BMW??? Leaving out the Gran 
Coupe since it will be big for sure, (perhaps bigger than F10) that only 
leaves one model...Looking at the current E90 which has grown as well over 
the past decade, one can deduce that the F30 will grow approx to the exact 
size dimensions as the former E39 5 series, just add a couple of inches to 
the wheelbase and about 200lbs, and its a near match...

2010 E90 335i



Wheelbase 2760 mm 108.7 in

Track front 1500 mm 59.1 in
rear 1529 mm 60.2 in
Length 4531 mm 178.4 in
Width 1817 mm 71.5 in
Height 1421 mm 55.9 in


Kerb weight 1625 kg 3583 lb

And the sad news about the F30 is that supposedly M has already decided NOT 
to make a 4door M3 due to the low sales of the E90 M3 (guess they didnt hear 
about our members support!), so there may not be any future agile, 4door, 
sports saloon available from M