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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Nemachiau ne vieno argumento susijusio su
kvadratiniais stumokliais...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>FX</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Na, Juzefai, ne visai teisus esi, mano kuklia
nuomone.<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Skiriasi ne tik motoro isvystoma maksimali galia
ir </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>sukimo momentas, skiriasi ne tik
eiga/stumokliai,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>sukiai prie kuriu pasiekiama galia, bet skiriasi
ir</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>varikliu darbines charakteristikos, darbines
kreives.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Vienas tam laikmeciui yra tikras "supercar
engine",</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>kitas yra tiesiog "big engine". Turint
galvoje ir tuos</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>skirtumus, kurie parasyti, tiketina, kad is 5.6
galima</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>isspausti dar daugiau, nes patys stumokliai ir
t.t.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>turi didesni atsargos/patikimumo rezerva, kas,
ko</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>gero, velgi pritaikyta tam, kad motoras skirtas
daugiau</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>grezti, nei tas 5.0.<BR><BR>Cia lygiai kaip
sakyti, kad visi audi/vw 1.9 dyzeliniai </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>motorai vienodi, nes vienodas cilindru skaicius,
o ir</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>darbinis turis! Nors vienas turi 70ag,
kitas turi 150ag,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>skiriasi uzdegimas, map'ai, galu gale net kuro
padavimo</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>sistemos.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Nu blet, as gal nelyginu 1990 8er su 2008
M5?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Ar atskiras ir specialus ir ahujenas BMW
M padalinys ir visai kito lygio inzinieriai (C) FX, viska ka
sugebejo tai 100rpm pakelti apsukas ir apgriauzti biski cilindrus?? Tai
ju tikrasis sunkaus darbo rezultatas o ne nedidckas projektelis kurio turbut
BMW Ag paprase??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>:))))</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Ieskot nevykusiu atmazkiu :)))</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>nu blet.....tau nr skirtumo tarp 1990 ir
2010?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>O ar skaitei ta attachmenta kuri pats
pridejai? ka? :)))</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Konkreciai ziurint, tai sitas 5.6 variklis
yra ant tos pacios bazes kaip 5.0, tik biski praplatino 'bore', biski
paaukstino 'stroke', biski padidino suspaudimo laipsni, pakeite voztuvu
timingus, aisku kompa ten elektra atitinkamai pakoregavo ir.....VISKAS.
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Dalykai, kurie daromi eiliniuose bmw
varikliuose (pvz einant nuo 1.6 iki 2.0 arba nuo 2.5 iki 3.0 ir
panasiai).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Tuo tarpu jeigu mes paimam koki M5,
palyginus su laipteliu zemiau esanciu 550i, tai ten absoliuciai kitas
variklis: pradedant cilindru skaiciumi (V10) ir baigiant tuom kad jis
sukasi iki beveik 9k rpm (palyginus 5.0 ir 5.6 max ag rpm skirtumas -
tik 100), ir padaro pusantro simto ar pananasiai daugiau arkliu. Deze
visiskai kita ir t.t. Cia tai jau yra M-power.Suprantama.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>0_o</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Blia......</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>:)))))</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Tai sakai tokie protingi kaip tu nera
marketingo aukos ir zhino kad tokiu atveju reikia pirkti mashinas
kuriu varikliai yra su kvadratiniais stumokliais!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>P.S. fakju! :D</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>FX</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Ar galima daryti isvada kad tu esi
'marketingo auka' ? </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Nes ten M-Motorsport padalinys, ten
visai kitaip viskas, ten nu nerealiai! (variklio ag ir performansas
gali buti 1:1 kaip eilinio bmw'o) bet vistiek ten ahujenai
nerealiai! Tik babkes mokek!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Ka? Durniau?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Durniau nepizdelink nesamoniu... BMW
ir BMW Motorsport Gmbh yra tas pats kas Mercedes-Benz ir
Mercedes-Benz AMG... tai skirtingos kompanijos turinchios
skirtinga produkcijos reindzha ir be abejo skirtingus
klientus...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Pagal tavo logika skirtingu daiktu
neegzistuoja kol jie GAUSIAI RADIKALIAI nesisikiria... pvz. px ar
dvirachio ratas ar kailiniuochio merso galinis ratas...abu apvalus
ir tiek... taip pat ir YZF ir koks bomzhas shiukshlyne... abu jus
esat zhmones tai koks tarp jusu skirtumas?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Tai vat nereikia chia svaigti apie
kosminius skirtumus, uzhtenka ir smulkiu detaliu...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>P.S. fakju dar karta!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>FX</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>nu. tai ir tarp 5.0 bei 5.4
skirtumas toks pats, koks ir tarp 5.4 ir 5.6. Ta pati BMW
varikliu linijos seka (tik kad paskutinieji surinkti 'kitoje
gamykloje').</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Tai nx mineti kad tas 5.6 kazkoks
"special m power" ? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Juk kai kalba eina apie Mersa tai
nekalba FX'as kad vat A ir B klases surenkamos vienoje
gamykloje, o ten kokia E ar C - kitoje!!!! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>((((:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>o koks skirtumas tarp tavo dulkiu
siurblio 1.0 ir tarp nissan micros 1.0 motoro? pas tave
bishky gal apsuku daugiau ir viskas, nei kvadratiniai
stumokliai nei zhvaigzhiu metalas vienzho the same
shit.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Kur apsilazalino? kad niekas
nepateike skirtumo tarp 5.4 ir 5.6? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Tik eilinis pilkas zmogelis
kaip Dainiushas tokias nesamones gali parasyti.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>P.S. ir FX :))))))</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>juzefas niekaip negali
suvokt, kad apsilaalino. nu bet nieko, gal apsipras su
laiku....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Juzefas jau neturi ka
pasakyti tai rasho belenka ir belenkaip... Juzefai katik
buvai papistas, bet ash suprantu, kad shiuo atveju tu
negalejai zhinoti kaip kas su 850 CSi yra nes ne vienam
PS geime jo nera... :))))</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>P.S. fakju!!!
:D</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>FX</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Ziuriu ir nikuja ten
nematau to, ka jau blet simta pirma karta kartoju, 5.4
vs 5.6 o ne 5.0 vs 5.6!! einana, matau kad cia su FX'u
nieko nebus. Wikipedija reik skaityti
:)))</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Na bet px, darom
prielaida kad 5.0 panasus i 5.4</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Tai tas 5.6, yra tiesiog
galingesnis variklis? didesne kubatura, didesnis
suspaudimo laipsnis, nu ten kompas kitaip
suprogramuotas ir t.t. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>T.y. skirtumas panasiai
kaip kad skirtusi koks nors 1.6 nuo 2.0 ar
pan.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>O kur stebuklinga mpover
nezinoma bet ypatinga aura? 0_o</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>FAK JU DAR KARTA!!! +
zhiurek attachmenta...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>How is the S70 engine different from the M70
V12 upon which it is based?<BR>When creating the
850CSi's S70 V12 motor, BMW Motorsport began with
the standard 24-valve SOHC M70 engine and instituted
the following changes:<BR>-Increased bore (from 85mm
to 86mm) and stroke (from 79mm to 80mm) for a new
total displacement of 5,576cc (from
4,988cc)<BR>-Lighter pistons<BR>-Increased
compression (from 8.8:1 to 9.8:1)<BR>-More
aggressive valve timing for increased high-rpm
power<BR>-Larger diameter exhaust pipes<BR>-Variable
rpm limit (6,400 in 1st+2nd, 6,200 in 3rd, 6,100 in
4th. 6,000 in 5th+6th)<BR>-Adjustable throttle
sensitivity via dual mode (Sport or Komfort)
console-mounted switch<BR>-Engine oil cooler
(European-spec models only)<BR><BR>These
modifications resulted in an increase in maximum
power from 300 hp (DIN) or 296 hp (SAE) at 5,200 rpm
to 380 hp (DIN) or 372 hp (SAE) at 5,300 rpm. In
addition, maximum torque was increased from 332
lb/ft at 4,100 rpm to 402 lb/ft at 4,000 rpm.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>FX</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>"turi skirtumu" - tai
ne atsakymas.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Kad rinko 'kitoje
gamykloje' - tai ne atsakymas.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Pasakyk konkreciai
kokie skirtumai: kvadratiniai stumokliai, zvaigziu
metalas, titaniniai voztuvai su dviem turbinom ir
400arkliu, etc, etc. A kad uzdetas lipdukas M tai
cia neskirtumas.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>matau kad matai
blogai.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>YZF'ai ash matau
kaip tu dabar bandai ishsisukineti ir
ishsipisineti... esme tokia tie motorai turi
skirtumu. Ar atsakiau y tavo
klausima?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>FX</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>P.S. FAKJU TOO!!
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Tai dabar
issiaiskinom kad 850Csi - MSport. Valio! Sita
juk ir Nerijus sake.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>O tai 850 su 5.4
V12 jau nebe Msport?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Primetam atsakyma
kad: taip.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Tai velgi gryztam
prie klausimo: kuo skiriasi msport 5.6 nuo ne
msport 5.4??</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I sita klausima
atsakimo taip ir nera? oops. FAIL.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"FX" <<A
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<DIV>While the M8 was never produced, it is
interesting to note that the 850CSi was also
tuned by BMW's M division. Aside from sporting
an M-tuned engine (as identified by the S suffix
instead of the M prefix that a non-M tuned
engine would wear), the car's VIN identifies the
car as being built by BMW Motorsport (identified
by the WBS prefix) instead of BMW AG (WBA
prefix). This effectively identifies the 850CSi
as essentially a detuned version of the
M8.</DIV>
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<DIV>P.S. FAKJU!</DIV>
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