Tema: Re: Stai toks turi buti tikras filmas apie kara
Autorius: Nero
Data: 2010-12-03 14:59:16
kazkaip iki siol galvojau kad kalbam apie 2 pasaulini kara ir paprasta rusu 
kareivi ;-) (kas ir buvo parasyta paciam pirmam poste)

bet matau reik pradet skaiciuot kiek koks rezimas ir kur zmoniu nuzude 
visais laikais?

tada lenkiu zemai galva pries Hitleri - jis tikrai buvo geresnis uz Stalina, 
tiesiog angelas..., ir kodel nieks slovinanciu Hitleri ir Vokietija filmu 
nekuria pasaulyje, nesuprantu...

ir dar kodel USA nenumete ant SSSR atomines bombos, kaip ant Hirosimos ir 
Nagasakio - tie rusai - jie buvo tokie blogi ziaurus  kraugeriai.....

"Toxis@ze_yvil_place" <tox@work.ble> wrote in message ...
>
> "Nero" <arturasr_NEREIKIA_@eircom.net> wrote in message 
> news:idank8$jlr$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>> nebeisprovokuosi manes, tik su situo tai parjuokinai - tu dar linkus i 
>> kokio
>> vaiku darzelio psl gal idek ;-))))
>> http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_killed_more_people_Stalin_Hitler_or_Pol_Pot
>> cia galiu ir as dabar dar viena komentara darasyt - nori???
>
> pabandyk, pazhiurek kiek ishsilaikys, ash rimtai sakau.
>
>> o antram saltinyje tai isvis apsiskaiciavai arba skaityt nemoki
>> "Stalin is responsible for the death of 17 million Russians, but only 
>> half a
>> million were killed by his order."
>> taigi be propagandos atvirai isdrysta sakyti - puse milijono.
>>
>> "Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) - 12,000,000 (concentration camps and
>> civilians WWII)"
>> atvirai parasyta - 12 milijonu
>
> o vos vos zhemiau galva nuleisti buvo shiek tiek per sunku tamstai...
> kaip ir atsakyt i likusius posto klausimus
>      Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 23,000,000 (the purges plus Ukraine's 
> famine)
>
> (Note: the crimes committed by right-wing dictators have always been 
> easier to track down than the crimes against humanity committed by 
> communist leaders, so the figures for communist leaders like Stalin and 
> Mao increase almost yearly as new secret documents become available. To 
> this day, the Chinese government has not yet disclosed how many people 
> were executed by Mao's red guards during the Cultural Revolution and how 
> many people were killed in Tibet during the Chinese invasion of 1950. We 
> also don't know how many dissidents have been killed by order of Kim Il 
> Sung in North Korea, although presumably many thousands).
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Main sources:
>  a.. Charny (1988) Genocide: A Critical Bibliographic Review
>  b.. Stephane Courtois: Black Book on Communism (1995)
>  c.. Matthews: Guiness Book of Records (2000)
>  d.. Clodfelter: Warfare and Armed Conflicts (1992)
>  e.. Elliot: Twentieth Century Book of the Dead (1972)
>  f.. Bouthoul : A List of the 366 Major Armed Conflicts of the period 
> 1740-1974, Peace Research (1978)
>  g.. R.J. Rummel: Death by Government - Genocide and Mass Murder (1994)
>  h.. Matt White's website
>  i.. Several general textbooks of 20th century history
>
>> p.s. autoritetingesnio psl neradai su tokiomis "ziniomis" ar ne? (bo gi
>> nieks nepublikuotu viesai tokiu nesamoniu)
> dar vis googlint neishmokom, specialiai bandzhiau parinkt, kad tik butu 
> labiau koncentruota informacija, ir mazhiau vargintis skaityt, nes kaip 
> supratau su tuo tamstai yra problemu
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Calculating_the_number_of_victims