nu papasakok man dar ka nors is mano biografijos ...... gal rasiu ka idomaus isidet i cv "Juozas K." wrote in message news:ohdhug$ep1$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... p.s.: audrysas ir gyntasas irgi greiciausiai yra veganai, plius siek tiek dauzti nuo gimimo kaipo ir nenugalimas komplektas, na, bent jau siandienos medikams "Juozas K." <jkas@centras.opjh> wrote in message news:ohdhqh$eke$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... "u.s.a" <usa@usa.com> wrote in message news:ohd8ou$5hi$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > http://www.delfi.lt/article.php?id=74861060 > > kas jis toks? tai butu siu laiku visiskai normalus sveikuolis drakula pajuodusiais paakiais (zmonems tokie simptomai butu nenormalus - red. past.), "jauciantis" kad jam truksta dar vienos hipsteriu dirbtinai isveistos bedeles i savo first world problems komplekta, kad turetu ka veikti. manau nusialins dar labiau link hospitalizavimosi + laselines, net didziausi sveikuoliai drakulos po kurio laiko neatlaiko tokios sveikuoliskumo dozes. na bus idomu stebeti, pasaulis is dalies tuo ir idomus, galima stebeti aukstielninkai besistengiancius nusisikt debilus kaip zinia, visi veganai kuri laika savo tupu religiniu entuziazmu sugeba kompensuoti pirmus neakivaizdzius alinamo organizmo pozymius (kaip visi senai zinome, tikejimas - jega! na, bent jau kuri laika, kol CNS rimciau nepabyra, bet apie tai veliau), del to kuri laika tiek patiems, tiek aplinkiniams, gali atrodyti kad jiems viskas cool, kol del kokio B12 trukumo smegenims (kurios del to neatstatomai nyksta, kaip ir likusi CNS dalis) nupushta galutinai ir po to jau net nebeturi galimybiu suvokti kaip graudziai atrodo is salies, ir deja ne tik fiziskai. tie didvyriski problemu ieskotojai megina rast sprendimo budus kaip ta B12 deficita sutvarkyt, ryja sintetinius idealios formos papildus kuriu organizmas nepazista, ir/arba megina kimst augalus kuriuose yra kazkokiu B12 uzuomazgu. bet surprise surprise, o kad gamteleje viskas butu taip paprasta. ten gi mat truksta likusiu elementu deriniu, reikalingu tam kad bent tos uzuomazgos potencialiai galetu buti isisavinamos. del sito paties dalyko neretai neimanoma saves tiesiog kaip kokio masinos bako tupai papildyti konkreciu vitaminu ar mineralu nenaudojant kitu, viskas veikia sinergiskai ir yra susije. antraip viska ismyzi arba siaip bergzdziai panuodyji savo kepenis ar inkstus organizmo nepripazintais savais ir del to tiesiog "praspiriamais nafig" arba padaranciu papildomos zalos (pvz vartojant netinkamos formos kalci, is organizmo kalcis tik dar labiau pasisalina) elementais. na zodziu raskit nors viena vegana su gerais kraujo tyrimais tuo klausimu, todel tai net ne klausimas ar tikrai sie pusgalviai po kiek laiko nupushta. o kai jau buna velu, tai su tokiu jau nebesusisnekesit. pameginkit psichuskej paaiskinti napoleonui kad jis ne napoleonas, tikrai nepatikes ir dar gi isizeis. tad veganai turetu buti vedami i valstybini registra, kad praejus tam tikram laikui uzsiiminejant savo hobiu (kai smegeneliu funkcijos jau tampa pavojingai atitalzytos) pasieke pakankamai nupushimo lygi butu palaipsniui uzdarinejami :) viena grazu veganiska ryta skambutis i duris, ismunka brigada, isveza. dalis isvadu tiesiog grynai is gyvenimiskos patirties, na o mitybos minusu faktai tai tiesiai is veganu puslapio www.vegansociety.com paskaitykit, net idomu, kad patys sias bedas pripazista :) What Every Vegan Should Know About Vitamin B12 Very low B12 intakes can cause anemia and nervous system damage. The only reliable vegan sources of B12 are foods fortified with B12 (including some plant milks, some soy products and some breakfast cereals) and B12 supplements. Vitamin B12, whether in supplements, fortified foods, or animal products, comes from micro-organisms. Most vegans consume enough B12 to avoid anemia and nervous system damage, but many do not get enough to minimize potential risk of heart disease or pregnancy complications. In the absence of any apparent dietary supply, deficiency symptoms usually take five years or more to develop in adults, though some people experience problems within a year. A very small number of individuals with no obvious reliable source appear to avoid clinical deficiency symptoms for twenty years or more. B12 is the only vitamin that is not recognised as being reliably supplied from a varied wholefood, plant-based diet with plenty of fruit and vegetables, together with exposure to sun. Many herbivorous mammals, including cattle and sheep, absorb B12 produced by bacteria in their own digestive system. B12 is found to some extent in soil and plants. These observations have led some vegans to suggest that B12 was an issue requiring no special attention, or even an elaborate hoax. Others have proposed specific foods, including spirulina, nori, tempeh, and barley grass, as suitable non-animal sources of B12. Such claims have not stood the test of time. Even slightly elevated homocysteine is associated with increased risk of many health problems including heart disease in adults, preeclampsia during pregnancy and neural tube defects in babies. Symptoms of B12 deficiency Clinical deficiency can cause anaemia or nervous system damage. In adults typical deficiency symptoms include loss of energy, tingling, numbness, reduced sensitivity to pain or pressure, blurred vision, abnormal gait, sore tongue, poor memory, confusion, hallucinations and personality changes. <<< che geraz, sitie asmeniskai pastebeti tarp musu idiotu veganu. Often these symptoms develop gradually over several months to a year before being recognised as being due to B12 deficiency