Tema: Re: kaip nevartyk uodega, o vis delto pergale
Autorius: tikrasis sbalen
Data: 2017-05-10 20:56:14
"jeigu" istorijoje nera.
jeigu taip butu ivyke, is visu likusiu zydu butu isvires muiliukas, ir 
dar visokiu negeru dalyku atsitike
uztat padorus zmones ir svencia pergale
tu nesi toks

"tomasz" <nera@pasto.lt> ra?e news:oevjvt$knd$1@trimpas.omnitel.net:

> nu nu...
> kvailasis naivume...
> jei ne adolfo kvailumas ir pindosu pagalba, i blyna butu sukociotas 
> mordoras.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease
> 
> Nikita Khrushchev, having served as a military commissar and
> intermediary between Stalin and his generals during the war, addressed
> directly the significance of Lend-lease aid in his memoirs:
> 
> I would like to express my candid opinion about Stalin's views on
> whether the Red Army and the Soviet Union could have coped with Nazi
> Germany and survived the war without aid from the United States and
> Britain. First, I would like to tell about some remarks Stalin made
> and repeated several times when we were "discussing freely" among
> ourselves. He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped
> us, we would not have won the war. If we had had to fight Nazi Germany
> one on one, we could not have stood up against Germany's pressure, and
> we would have lost the war. No one ever discussed this subject
> officially, and I don't think Stalin left any written evidence of his
> opinion, but I will state here that several times in conversations 
> with me he noted that these were the actual circumstances. He never
> made a special point of holding a conversation on the subject, but
> when we were engaged in some kind of relaxed conversation, going over
> international questions of the past and present, and when we would
> return to the subject of the path we had traveled during the war, that
> is what he said. When I listened to his remarks, I was fully in
> agreement with him, and today I am even more so.[30]
> 
> In a confidential interview with the wartime correspondent Konstantin 
> Simonov, the famous Soviet Marshal G.K. Zhukov is quoted as saying:
> 
> Today [1963] some say the Allies didn't really help us. But listen,
> one cannot deny that the Americans shipped over to us material without
> which we could not have equipped our armies held in reserve or been
> able to continue the war.[31]
> 
>