na, kraštutiniu atveju galima imt LED lempas ir išmest iš jų draiverius.... "knx" <varzug@gmail.com> wrote in message news:hse7qc$fat$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > http://www.centrsvet.ru/pdf/controllers/v_dimmer.pdf > > o ji valdyti su 1-10V dimeriu, nu toki pat naudoju liuminisc.lempoms su > EVG 1-10V balastu. > > bet realiai cia gausis tas pats Curve dimeris, kuris buvo atachmente, tik > galingesnis. O lempu jam vistiek nera. Visi parduoda tik juostos be > draiverio. Gaunas kad turiu ieskoti ne lempos, o led sviestuvus, ir > sviestuvas turi buti specialus, skirtas dimingus, be driverio. Nu kaip > pirmam poste man ir rase anglas. > > > "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:hse1kd$4iv$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >> pagal tai kas nupiešta apie tą dimmer'į, tai jam reikia tiesiog "plikų" >> LED'ų, be jokių draiverių. Ir tada bus gerai. Nes su jokia normalia LED >> lempute, skirta naudot autonomiškai, jis neveiks. >> >> "knx" <varzug@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:hsdtrg$t8d$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>> Tai gaunasi, jei paimti LED lempute be driverio, tai ji galima valdyti >>> su PWMu? Nes shitas dimeris butent PWM'u ir valdo. >>> >>> O kaip veikia tokie dimeriai? >>> http://www.luchrom.com/product/cate_8626_1.html >>> Nu pvz: http://www.luchrom.com/product/69087_pic.html >>> Ji reikia diminti su AC dimeriu? Tai paimu kaitinimo lempai skirta >>> dimeri > sita led dimmeri > led lempute is to pacio luchrom >>> ar kaip? >>> >>> >>> "Bilibobas" <kakbubu@tralia.lt> wrote in message >>> news:hsdnt3$jqe$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>> gamintojo paaiskininimas visiskas Bull-Shit. >>>> >>>> Paprasciausiai 12V LEDas turi savyje stabilizatoriu ir jo darbo itampa >>>> tikriausiai nuo kokiu 5V iki 24V. Jis jis siame diapazone svies >>>> _vienodai_. Todel itampos keitinimo diminimas netinka. PWM diminimas >>>> tikriausiai irgi netinka, nes LEDo stabilizatorius tikriausiai a) turi >>>> iejime dideli kondika, b) LEDo stabilizatorius dirba didesniu dazniu >>>> nei diminimo ir pilnai speja pasiimti tiek energijos kiek jam reikia. >>>> >>>> Ir tokie LEDai ne "cheap LED product". Va tie kurie lengvai diminasi >>>> yra "cheap". >>>> >>>> Bye, Levas >>>> >>>> >>>> "knx" <varzug@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:hsdhvd$a8g$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>> Sveiki, >>>>> niekaip nesuprantu kaip diminti LED 12V lemputes. >>>>> Turiu toki dimmeri, kaip atachmente, kuris tinka valdymo sistemai, bet >>>>> nelabai suprantu kiek ir kokias led lempos (pvz >>>>> http://eled.lt/Buitinis.htm) >>>>> jam tinka. Nu suprantoma, kad 12V. Nes kai klausiu dimmerio gamyntojo >>>>> apie >>>>> http://www.electricity-monitor.com/mr16-3x1w-led-12v-spot-cool-white-p-141.html >>>>> tokio tipo lempa, tai jis sako kad: >>>>> >>>>> That’s the problem about the cheap LED products. >>>>> This device works all together with a simple 12 V power supply. >>>>> But you are not able to dimm this spot. >>>>> >>>>> The write about 700mA : because inside they use cree LEDs with a >>>>> constant >>>>> current of 700mA. But this doesn’t mean, that the input on the >>>>> contacts is >>>>> 12V, 700mA = 8,4W >>>>> And it is not correct: because the cree LEDs are able to work with >>>>> 700mA, in >>>>> this case the write 3x1W. If this LED have an output of 1W the drive >>>>> them >>>>> with 350mA!!! >>>>> It’s not possible to drive this LED without a big cooling device with >>>>> 700mA >>>>> in a so small spot >>>>> >>>>> You definitely can not dimm this product!!! >>>>> >>>>> We also have LED Spots in our product portfolio. In the catalog you >>>>> will >>>>> find them as TEKO. >>>>> This spots we also produce with an 12V input. They are not dimmable. >>>>> But we also produce them without control: so you can drive them direct >>>>> with >>>>> the CURVE actuator. >>>>> >>>>> >>> >