Ko nezinai ? as apie keltuvus kalbu, duobe tai isvis nx. "911" <911@gmail.com> wrote in message news:m9c949$fj1$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > nzn kas tas yra bet duobe garaze.. siais laikais.. pas save name... > nu kodeku reik but, arba kokia signalizacija > . > "Igaliotinis" <spam@rlc.sm> wrote in message > news:m9c43d$ee9$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >> nu buna, bet zirklinis arba 4 kolonu vistiek netoks patogus kaip dvieju >> kolonu, ypac simetrinis. >> >> "911" <911@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:m9bol5$a1c$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>> nu tai va sitas vienintelis, bet buna atitinkamu keltuvu >>> >>> "Signalizacija" <signalizacija.master@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:m9boak$9t4$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>> Pvz vaziuokles suverzinejimas, >>>> >>>> On 2015.01.16 20:58, 911 wrote: >>>>> kokie darbai duobej patogiau nei ant keltuvo? >>>>> >>>>> "Signalizacija" <signalizacija.master@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:m9bmpk$97i$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>> Duobe yra gerai. Yra darbu prie masinos kur ji patogiau. O ir garaza >>>>>> sildo >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2015.01.16 20:47, monaxas wrote: >>>>>>> Ša. Keltuvas numatytas. Duobes nebus. >>>>>>> Aukštis, taip - 4 m. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Nioka" <dainius_TRINTI@inbox.ru> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:m9bgb9$6m9$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>> Bet garazo aukstis keltuvui - 4m. Kur cia pigumas? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "tranzoo" <laisku@nera.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:m9b1ra$u4i$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>> del duobes garaze - keltuvas kainuoja pigiau. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> T >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Arj" <root@ibm.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:m9as89$p7s$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>> saip tai priesingai - nei vieno pranasumo muras pries karkasa >>>>>>>>>> tokiu >>>>>>>>>> atveju neturi. >>>>>>>>>> pamatu karkasui uztenka elementaru, darbai irgi elementarus, >>>>>>>>>> savikaina >>>>>>>>>> mazesne gerokai, rezultatas itariu dziugintu labiau, panorejus >>>>>>>>>> pakeitimu >>>>>>>>>> perdaryt gerokai paprasciau, visus darbus pats be problemu gali >>>>>>>>>> pasidaryti. >>>>>>>>>> As pats statyciau karkasini, pamatus elementarius polinius, is >>>>>>>>>> vidaus osb >>>>>>>>>> (jei budzetine statyba), is isores siltinciau vata (~10cm) I >>>>>>>>>> karkaso >>>>>>>>>> tarpus, apdaila lentom (ar plastiku, jei budzetinis variantas), >>>>>>>>>> stogas >>>>>>>>>> pagal skoni, vartus pakeliamus. Jei daryti garaza su rusiu - >>>>>>>>>> viskas >>>>>>>>>> sudetingeja, pagrinde del to kad rusys dafiga $ suvalgys ir jis >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> principo kapilatlinis statinys. Nors, jei rusio bulvems nereikia, >>>>>>>>>> tai >>>>>>>>>> garaze galima nedidele apziuros duobe issimuryti, kokia >>>>>>>>>> 1.5x3x1m - >>>>>>>>>> darbo >>>>>>>>>> maziau gerokai, auto is apacios savarankiskai apziureti iseis, o >>>>>>>>>> daugiau >>>>>>>>>> ir nelabai jos reikia neuzsiimant zemes ukiu. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "sharkius" parase naujienu >>>>>>>>>> news:m9al3l$jks$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> neivieno pranasumo pries mura tokia xujnia neturi... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >